Wednesday, September 15, 2010

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This was posted as a comment to an earlier blog article:

We also live on a small farm with a smart meter and have been paying out the nose monthly --having to dip into our mortgage funds to pay H1. Now we're in the process of loosing our house and they threw a deposit on us for 790 dollars because we were behind on our bill by 45 bucks. We were unable to pay the whole thing and were constantly threatened to be discontinued. Finally we got the deposit paid, and that 40 bucks of owing on our last bill increased to 500 owed for the month of use.Why are they allowed to do this??Why hasn't anyone started a civil action suit against H1? If you've been paying something every month ( even if not in whole) it shows that your trying and are NOT avoiding them. Any court would rule in the peoples favour. I'm so tired of being bent over the table from the GOV, H1, Bell Etc...and taking it up the tail pipe -- Canada needs its own tea party or someone needs to start an underground party and set anarchy into motion...

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  1. I feel sorry for the situation that "Tired of Getting Screwed" finds himself (herself) in. The thought of losing one's home is devastating.

    As an upfront disclaimer, I have worked with public utilities in Ontario for the better part of 13 years, and my family has worked with public utilities for over 20 years. I've worked in a utility in Ontario and have done consulting work with utilities in Ontario. In particular, I have worked with smart meters for the past four years.

    Regarding "Tired of Being Screwed"'s (ToBS)security deposit, the Ontario Energy Board has some pretty straight forward rules for security deposits. Hydro One can ask for one if you've been disconnected in the past 12 months, or have had more than one NSF payment or collection trip in the past 12 months. They can ask for up to a maximum amount for a security deposit, based on frequency of billing and what your average bill is. Based on the $790 deposit, the average bill ToBS receives is somewhere between $316 (if billed monthly) and $525 (if billed quarterly).

    Given ToBS's likely bills, the $500 bill he received is probably in line with historical bills. If ToBS just opened a high bill, then it likely includes usage associated with air conditioning. Assuming that ToBS has central air, the bill will be quite large (as was mine) given the hot summer. Even with a window unit, your bill will still be higher.

    Again, I feel sorry for ToBS and the situation that he/she is in. I would not wish that on anyone. However, regarding Hydro, they are entitled to protect their business with a security deposit.



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